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How would you teach a newbie version of yourself.

Posted: November 8th, 2011, 4:17 pm
by uMonk
Let’s assume you went back in time to a period where your past self had just learnt about OBE’s, lets also assume you want to give your past self the best OBE education you never had at that early stage! What would be the “curriculum”, which manuals would you introduce yourself to and what general advice would you give yourself, please list your "educational steps" in order if possible. :)

Re: How would you teach a newbie version of yourself.

Posted: November 8th, 2011, 4:35 pm
by Ssurge
Nice thread! However, I would not change anything as all the experiences I've gone through have taught me all I know today. Although a few interesting experiences would have been nice to experience, I'd still not change anything. :D

Re: How would you teach a newbie version of yourself.

Posted: November 8th, 2011, 6:16 pm
by Lionheart
I would say to learn to relax and meditate first. I find that once you can achieve a good deep meditation that you are opening yourself up to the new realities you are seeking. I would then strive on the fact that to see success you must be 100% committed. Most of my early conversations would be on mental preparedness. Then comes what I was told recently in a Phase session I was in and that is to truly get in touch with your inner conscious you need to become focused on unfocusing. That one was one of the strangest lessons I had learned in a Phase. But it's true, there have been many times when I tried to just force the Phase. To jumpstart it with images of spinning tops, geometric shapes, color balls, etc. These eventually led to success, but wasted a ton of time and energy. I had many times where I made it to the Astral, but after doing 10 minutes breathing exercise, 20 mins relaxation, 10 mins moving energy and probably another 10 minutes jump starting visual imagery. All to get the feeling of being in the Astral for 2 minutes. Now I realize if I would have just sat down and focused my intent, that I wouldn't have needed all those extra activities. I have to admit though Tom Campbell had alot to do with this new way of thinking. All of this is pretty well described in his Tom Campbell NYC MBT Master Workshop part 5/5 video. I would definitely had told myself to watch that one. That video is a must for anyone who truly wishes to learn and understand the Astral.

How would you teach a newbie version of yourself.

Posted: November 9th, 2011, 1:26 pm
by uMonk
Guess I’ll jump in with mine too.

I would start with handing myself the 2000 year old book “yoga sutras” by patanjali, in my opinion nobody since has written a better book on the correct ways to meditate.

The book “who am I” by Sri Ramana Maharshi also sounds like a good option… Self-enquiry leads one to drop the ego entirely, thus there will be less of a need to practice no mind meditation… as one without ego has less internal chatter and less worries. (clearly im still working on this one). :)

I would also throw in an interupted sleep technique, As i used to wake up in sleep paralysis naturally, this technique seems to work nicely with my own functionality.

Following this I would suggest keeping an open mind, as long as I follow the yoga sutras, the methods will be correct and from there I should build on each experience over time… Alongside this I would introduce myself to Tom Campbell’s work, MBT Master Workshop Part 5/5 is good.

How would you teach a newbie version of yourself.

Posted: November 9th, 2011, 3:57 pm
by Ryan
Meditation. I'd definitely teach the newbie version of myself to be persistent with learning meditation... as I feel it's the base action one needs to master before they begin to master everything else metaphysical.

How would you teach a newbie version of yourself.

Posted: November 9th, 2011, 6:50 pm
by Summerlander
I wouldn't go back in time and I wouldn't teach my past self anything. I would travel to the future and ask my future self to teach me everything he knows so I can do better (as I have more time left than him). I would also travel after my death day just to see what things are like in case death is really the end. :D

If I had to go back in time and meet myself, I would go back three and a half years ago and tell myself not to read Michael Powell's Mind Games. That way, I would not learn about Robert Monroe and his method causing a different chain of events. I would do this with the sole purpose of seeing the different outcome. What would I be like if I hadn't found out?

...and also to avoid a clash of egos with Benjamin Phillips. :mrgreen:

How would you teach a newbie version of yourself.

Posted: November 9th, 2011, 9:34 pm
by Jettins \o/
Let’s assume you went back in time to a period where your past self had just learnt about OBE’s, lets also assume you want to give your past self the best OBE education you never had at that early stage! What would be the “curriculum”
I would tell my past self not to fear, questions everything, follow your intuition, stimulate your creativity. I would not be specific about anything else because the struggle of self discovery is what made me the way I am. I would not change anything about myself, I would only encourage.

Have a great day! :D